is vista terminal server

Hi
I playing a little with vista 5308, and it's behavior looks like the operative system is not running a full console session, but looks like a terminal session, so giving the security of this approach on a server.
Could someone give a little of more technical informacion about it or i'm completly lost ?
thanks
Rafa J.

No, Vista is not a terminal server, but it does include Terminal Services software called Remote Desktop. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Rafa J." wrote in message

Hi
I playing a little with vista 5308, and it's behavior looks like the operative system is not running a full console session, but looks like a terminal session, so giving the security of this approach on a server.
Could someone give a little of more technical informacion about it or i'm completly lost ?
thanks
Rafa J.

"Longhorn" Server has the capability to be a terminal server, but how it is at the moment in the Feb. CTP it's a bit crap to be honest, but eventually in later builds it should be at a better standard than Windows Server 2003 R2 :o)
We've got a "Longhorn" Server attached to our WS03 R2 domain controller at home, but we only use it as a file server as the rest of the functionality... is... hmm... lacking somewhat :op
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

No, Vista is not a terminal server, but it does include Terminal Services software called Remote Desktop. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Rafa J." wrote in message Hi
I playing a little with vista 5308, and it's behavior looks like the operative system is not running a full console session, but looks like a terminal session, so giving the security of this approach on a server.
Could someone give a little of more technical informacion about it or i'm completly lost ?
thanks
Rafa J.

Is Vista "a terminal server" in the same way that Server 2003 can be "a terminal server"? No. I agree with Andre in that regard.
But just like Windows XP, Vista is supporting multiple "concurrent" user sessions and a single remote terminal session. All of which are supported by the same code that makes these things possible on terminal servers.
What _is_ new to Vista and is "even more like a terminal server" is that the interactive console session now runs in "session 1" rather than session zero. This was part of the service hardening, so that only services would be running in session zero. This change doesn't impact "what rights do I have" though. There are some subtle differences due to this change, but nothing terminal service-aware applications haven't been dealing with since Windows 2000 and NT 4.0 SP4.
That you mention "security" makes me think the main thing you're noticing is actually Vista's User Account Protection (UAP), which isn't related to terminal services or "being like a terminal server" at all. UAP effectively strips you of your Administrators membership, such that by default every process you start is running as a "standard user" with only limited rights. To actually run a process with the rights provided by your Administrators group membership, by default under Vista you have to explicitly run the process using "Run as Administrator" and then confirm an interactive prompt that you want the process to be allowed to run with elevated rights.
You can search msdn.microsoft.com for information on Vista and UAP.
"Rafa J." wrote:

Hi
I playing a little with vista 5308, and it's behavior looks like the operative system is not running a full console session, but looks like a terminal session, so giving the security of this approach on a server.
Could someone give a little of more technical informacion about it or i'm completly lost ?
thanks
Rafa J.

Alan Adams

Thanks Alan
That was what I meant

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Is Vista "a terminal server" in the same way that Server 2003 can be "a terminal server"? No. I agree with Andre in that regard.
But just like Windows XP, Vista is supporting multiple "concurrent" user sessions and a single remote terminal session. All of which are supported by the same code that makes these things possible on terminal servers.
What _is_ new to Vista and is "even more like a terminal server" is that the interactive console session now runs in "session 1" rather than session zero. This was part of the service hardening, so that only services would be running in session zero. This change doesn't impact "what rights do I have" though. There are some subtle differences due to this change, but nothing terminal service-aware applications haven't been dealing with since Windows 2000 and NT 4.0 SP4.
That you mention "security" makes me think the main thing you're noticing is actually Vista's User Account Protection (UAP), which isn't related to terminal services or "being like a terminal server" at all. UAP effectively strips you of your Administrators membership, such that by default every process you start is running as a "standard user" with only limited rights. To actually run a process with the rights provided by your Administrators group membership, by default under Vista you have to explicitly run the process using "Run as Administrator" and then confirm an interactive prompt that you want the process to be allowed to run with elevated rights.
You can search msdn.microsoft.com for information on Vista and UAP.
"Rafa J." wrote:
Hi
I playing a little with vista 5308, and it's behavior looks like the operative system is not running a full console session, but looks like a terminal session, so giving the security of this approach on a server.
Could someone give a little of more technical informacion about it or i'm completly lost ?
thanks
Rafa J.
Alan Adams